
I
have known Indra for many years, and feel proud to be called his
friend. Not just because he’s an immensely gifted writer, but also
because Indra cares. For us. Even as we locals look away from all the
screw-ups that go on in our own backyard, here’s an Indian born Brit
who’s spent his life fighting for the cause of Bhopal’s
gas attack victims. He’s written award winning ads to raise funds, he’s
set up a free clinic for those affected by the tragedy, he writes
provocative columns and blogs to mobilise opinion, and now he’s written
a book on the subject. And quite deservedly, finds himself in the
Booker shortlist for 'Animal’s People'. I speak to the writer over
e-mail, as he punches away his power thoughts from his villa in the
South of France. A standing ovation for Indra Sinha, dear ladies and
gentlemen. Because this Colaba boy stills worries about us, 40 years
after leaving the country.
It
was courageous to give up the lucrative job in the ad biz, did you
always know you'll make it as a book writer? The response to your first
attempt, The Cybergypsies, wasn't very encouraging...
It
was more courageous of Vickie (Indra’s wife). I was fed up with
advertising, itching to quit. On my 45th birthday, I took a piece of
paper and a pencil and drafted my resignation. Then rang Vickie, read
it to her and said, 'I've nothing else to go to. I want to write.
There'll be no money. Shall I tear this up, or hand it in?' This can’t
have been easy for her. As you know, Anil, at that time we had a big
house in the country – daughter Tara had a horse – in fact you were
with us when we bought it. But Vickie said, 'You're not happy. Hand it
in. We'll manage somehow.' For that I will always be grateful. She is a
pearl, I can’t speak too highly of her. We've had some tough times
since, but a few years of austerity do wonders for one's values, and
next year we’ll have been married 30 years.
The
Cybergypsies was a fragmented, somewhat hallucinatory memoir of the
pre-web net that flattened the perspective between fact and fantasy and
treated both as equally real. My old chum Neil French said it was
unreadable, but at a literary festival in Perth I heard it described as "Confessions of an English Opium Eater meets The Beach". So there.
As a copywriter, how much of your IQ - your Indian Quotient, crept into your ads?
Very little. I was working in London. Nothing I was doing had any connection with India
. For years, I had only two close Indian friends, Shreeram Vidyarthi from Books From India
who appeared in The Cybergypsies as Pustaq Keet, and Sital Singh Maan who runs The Punjab restaurant in Covent Garden,
where I’ve had the privilege of helping cook curried Christmas turkey
for 30 people. I did feature Gandhiji in a couple of ads, one for
Amnesty and the other, bizarrely, for the British Army. Neither ran. I
wrote a series of ads for Books from India
. One was about Salman Rushdie's use of gaali in Shame. It concluded, "The saalaa deserves all the Booker prizes he can get."
These were isolated exercises in nostalgia. I was out of touch with India
for years. It was not really until I became involved with the Bhopalis that it re-entered my life.
You've
said that awards are the advertising industry's way of numbing itself
against the knowledge that most of what it does is inherently
worthless. What do you feel about the Booker?
Being
nominated for the Booker assures a novel of being widely read and
talked about. The focus is on the book more than the writer, and novels
are a powerful force for good in the world – they entertain, delight,
comfort, inspire and transform. What do ad awards achieve? After I left
advertising, I burned my portfolio and threw away all the award
trophies and framed certificates.
Do copywriters make better book writers? Do you feel that your years in advertising have made you a better book writer?
Quite
a few ex-copywriters became successful novelists – Fay Weldon, Joseph
Heller, Peter Carey, Salman Rushdie – but so have ex-sailors, teachers
and priests. To write books, one has to think in long curves and at the
same time imagine very deeply and in great detail. Having said this, my
approach to advertising was that of a storyteller, I used to turn
everything into stories. For Guinness I created a series of Sherlock
Holmes tales in which the dark stout was always the clue. For example,
a murderer left the imprint of his moustache in the creamy head. I
later adapted one of these ads as a short story and entered it into a
national Arthur Conan Doyle story competition. It won second prize.
Your long copy ads have often been called journalism, not advertising.
Another
advertising question? Anil, you are obsessed. A page in a newspaper or
a magazine is a paid-for blank white space into which you have the
freedom to put whatever works best. Does it really matter what you call
it? Neil French has proved over and over again that none of the
supposedly essential elements of a press ad are actually needed. The
gurus of advertising who say that people don’t read any more and that
pictures work better than words are out of touch and simply wrong. I
try to write as well as I can, and try not to manipulate the readers or
insult their intelligence. Our Bhopal fundraising appeals run to 1,000
words each and not only pay for themselves, but for a dozen years have
generated enough response to run a clinic. People think there is a
formula, but there isn’t. It’s instinct and writing from the heart.
Khaufpur
(the fictitious town in Animal’s People) has its own website. Is that a
result of your years in advertising - a total communication package?
You
are very insistent on the advertising connection. But the answer is no,
it’s a result of years spent editing Bhopal campaign websites and
knowing the impact the internet can have if you get it right, witness
the Yes Men. I was very keen that Animal’s People – phew, at last I can
mention my book – should be read as a novel in its own right, and not
as a vehicle for Bhopal campaigning. This is one reason why the city in the novel is called Khaufpur, not Bhopal.
A city like Khaufpur should naturally have its own website, which would
be a place where people could find out more about the novel. It also
gives the opportunity for Animal to create a little bit of humour and
mischief.
Do you think we Indians don't care enough for what happens in our own backyard? You have shown more commitment to Bhopal than the whole lot of us out here.
There
are plenty of Indians who never get any praise or acknowledgement,
working hard on behalf of poor and oppressed people. I can think of
dozens of people in Bhopal,
in other badly polluted places like Cuddalore and northern Kerala,
those who are working with tribal people whose lands are being forcibly
snatched by big business and its political friends. There are thousands
of quiet heroes, working for little or no money and without the
slightest recognition. No one gives them awards or prizes, yet still
they carry on.
Would
it be correct to say that your life has turned out rather like
Rushdie's, you have followed his career in almost every single way,
except for the fatwa and Padma Lakshmi?
Why
do you say that? Is it because we both grew up in Bombay, both went to
Cathedral school, both were at public schools in England, both read
English Literature at Cambridge, both went into advertising as
copywriters, both worked at Ogilvy & Mather, both worked with the
same art director, Garry Horner, on the same Fresh Cream Cakes account?
We differ in that Mr Rushdie claims to have written the slogan ‘Naughty
but Nice’ and I do not. Also, I have not won a Booker Prize, did not
suffer a fatwa, have no friends among the jet-set and society hostesses
don’t seem to have my number. I admire Salman Rushdie’s work immensely.
Midnight’s Children is an utterly brilliant book, but I don’t want to
write like him. People must find their own voices.
Do
you think the language in Animal’s People is too raw for the Booker
judges? That it could come in the way in the final judging?
No
one knows what is in the mind of the Booker judges, but the fact that
they have twice chosen Animal's People, and that it’s in their top six
out of 128 novels – must mean that so far at least they’ve coped with
Animal's foul tongue. Animal’s People is up against five novels of
great strength and beauty. Personally I can't wait to read Darkman's.
Having admired Camus's use of the second person in La Chute, I am
interested to see how The Reluctant Fundamentalist handles its
subtleties. I am a huge fan of Ian McEwan's and read everything he
writes. The Gathering is surely an elegant piece of writing and Mr Pip
sounds irresistible. Given such formidable competition, it won't be
something as trivial as bad language that stops Animal’s People from
winning.
Animal's People. Would I be right in calling it your most effective long copy ad for Bhopal?
You
are straight back to advertising. Dammit Anil, I would really hate to
think of a novel in that way. The novel isn’t some carefully planned
and meticulously worked out campaign. It’s a story. To write it at all,
I had to let go of Bhopal,
forget its history and its twenty years of inter-tangled issues. This
is why Khaufpur came into being. I imagined it in almost obsessive
detail, so much so that when I went to Bhopal
after the writing was finished, I was surprised to find things not
where I expected – I'd been living in Khaufpur too long. The characters
are everything – them and their Khaufpuri sense of humour. Animal leapt
to life in my mind and immediately began abusing me. How can you,
who’ve never been hungry or homeless, or had to shit on railway tracks,
write about our lives? The solution was Animal, you talk, I’ll record.
Do you honestly believe victims of the gas tragedy will ever get justice?
What
is justice? What justice for the dead? What justice for someone who has
already spent twenty three years barely able to breathe, living on
compensation that works out at seven rupees a day? What justice for
kids born brain damaged or deformed, whose lives are blighted before
they take their first breath? ‘Rights. Law. Justice. These words sound
the same in my mouth as in yours but they don’t mean the same. Zafar
says such words are like shadows the moon makes in the Kampani’s
factory, always changing shape. On that night it was poison, now it’s
words that are choking us.’ (Animal, speaking in the novel.)
You said the Indian politicians have betrayed their own people…
How
much of a list do you want? Making a deal with Union Carbide that
caused its share price to jump for joy? Keeping back half the money for
over a decade? Ending all studies into the medical impact of the gas
leak? Not making Union Carbide clean up its factory before it left Bhopal? Not pursuing the extradition of Carbide boss Warren Anderson? Giving no support in the ongoing US case about the poisoning of 26,000 people by chemicals leaking from the abandoned factory? Ignoring a Supreme Court of India
order to provide clean water to the poisoned communities? Beating up
women and children who dared to ask why nothing had been done? Allowing
Dow Chemical to trade in India
even though Dow refuses to produce its 100% subsidiary Union Carbide in the Bhopal court? Doing a deal with Dow to buy Union Carbide’s METEOR technology – a deal that had to be called off when Bhopal supporters exposed it? Permitting Dow to market as safe in India
, a pesticide, Dursban, that is banned for domestic use in the USA?
Failing to take action against Dow after it was revealed that Dow had
systematically bribed Indian officials for years? As we speak, the
politicians are conspiring with Dow to make an out-of-court deal that
frees it of its legal liabilities, all for tainted US dollars.
Meanwhile people are still forced to drink poisoned water, children are
still being born damaged. What part of this cannot be called betrayal?
One thing that pisses you off about Bombay every time you visit?
The only thing that pisses me off about Bombay is that I’m never able to stay long enough.
Anil Thakraney
anil.thakraney@timesgroup.com
ABOUT ANIMAL'S PEOPLE
The story is set in India
, in a city loosely based on Bhopal.
The main character is a teen whose spine is irreversibly twisted,
forcing him to be on all fours. This led to his being nicknamed
'Animal' by his cruel buddies. Animal has lived alone on the streets
for years and has grown up on the desolate grounds of the abandoned
factory that had caused the city's problems. Animal is full of angst
for the human world and says he is better off as an animal; he makes
fun of human laws and customs. He laughs that as an animal they don't
apply to him and he will do as he wishes.